senk1s
07-22 11:47 AM
did they ask any questions while stamping? Like why r u keeping PR and filed GC etc?
Can u plz share experience.
I have changed my employer and my new employer got me an extn also my GC is filed by them. Do u have the similar case?
Thanks
Nothing at all about my US GC ... ( i just filed 485 about a year ago - this was about 3 months before that)
These are approx conversations :)
Why did you come here instead of home country ... i came here to do the landing, and thought i'll do the visa stamping as well + Regular employer/ job /education questions ...come back tomorrow to collect the passport
Mine was same employer
Can u plz share experience.
I have changed my employer and my new employer got me an extn also my GC is filed by them. Do u have the similar case?
Thanks
Nothing at all about my US GC ... ( i just filed 485 about a year ago - this was about 3 months before that)
These are approx conversations :)
Why did you come here instead of home country ... i came here to do the landing, and thought i'll do the visa stamping as well + Regular employer/ job /education questions ...come back tomorrow to collect the passport
Mine was same employer
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lasvegas
02-05 04:57 PM
Don't know. But researching on this aspect could be an eye opener to LOT of people who applied for I-485 during July 2nd and also have applied for Canada gc in the past.
sidshar
05-24 08:45 AM
sent.
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harikris
09-10 09:28 PM
Harikris, I hear you. People are in different situations. I was not mad about moving to this country and for a long time, I preferred travelling instead. Then I reached a point where I preferred to be with my family and thought it is best if we move here and we filed for our GC at the same time. If it does not work out, I am entirely content moving back. Heck, even if it does work out, I might move back.
I am not crazy enough for my GC to spend all my waking hours trolling forums and calling people names. It is just not worth it. I do donate, the same way that I donate to the local zoo and botanical garden. I give them money to run something so that I and others may benefit from it. The people who run it are passionate about it and do it for themselves and others.
If things work out, everyone will benefit, the people who worked, and those who didn't, the people who donated and those who didn't. When India fought for its freedom, people donated money and time. I am ready to bet that less than 1% joined in the strugle. There were people who worked for the british government and there were people who went on with their lives. Everyone got freedom, the people who worked got recognized and remembered. That is life.
The ones who are desperate need others to pitch in to create a critical mass in terms of both money and numbers. I think this realization needs to sink in and insulting people into getting donations out of them is probably not a strategy that will work very well.
These forums are an excellent rallying point and I think more people being helpful and polite will go a long way.
Of course, I say all this with my leathery skin waiting to be called a useless idiot who writes bullshit.
Deepak,
You are very practical and have excellent points.
Sometimes, ppl do get carried away by their passion (height of desperation if one looks at it another angle). We have to accommodate folks that cannot have a nonchalant attitude towards Immigration. Just like health care, GC stirs up our deepest and strongest emotions. For many, GC is an all-or-nothing proposition (again let's not fret about why it might be so, because they might have their own good reasons). Regardless, i agree with you completely, civility should not be lost. We have a broken Immigration system - all i care is how to fix it.
I am becoming a donor for the following reasons -
1. It is better to be informed and be involved rather than be "out of the loop" or in the dark
2. It is not free to get anything done in the commercial capital of the planet
3. Selfish motivation - life is short. i would like to see the end of this struggle as soon as i can. personally, cannot be a mute spectator esp. when i see someone else fighting for MY cause and I being fortunate to lend a helping hand
4. Altruistic motivation - gives some meaning to life whether we get anything done or not at the end of the day. if successful, would have the satisfaction of being part of the solution - the intangible benefits of that feeling is unexplainable.
Wish us luck and my best to everyone in all their endeavors.
I am not crazy enough for my GC to spend all my waking hours trolling forums and calling people names. It is just not worth it. I do donate, the same way that I donate to the local zoo and botanical garden. I give them money to run something so that I and others may benefit from it. The people who run it are passionate about it and do it for themselves and others.
If things work out, everyone will benefit, the people who worked, and those who didn't, the people who donated and those who didn't. When India fought for its freedom, people donated money and time. I am ready to bet that less than 1% joined in the strugle. There were people who worked for the british government and there were people who went on with their lives. Everyone got freedom, the people who worked got recognized and remembered. That is life.
The ones who are desperate need others to pitch in to create a critical mass in terms of both money and numbers. I think this realization needs to sink in and insulting people into getting donations out of them is probably not a strategy that will work very well.
These forums are an excellent rallying point and I think more people being helpful and polite will go a long way.
Of course, I say all this with my leathery skin waiting to be called a useless idiot who writes bullshit.
Deepak,
You are very practical and have excellent points.
Sometimes, ppl do get carried away by their passion (height of desperation if one looks at it another angle). We have to accommodate folks that cannot have a nonchalant attitude towards Immigration. Just like health care, GC stirs up our deepest and strongest emotions. For many, GC is an all-or-nothing proposition (again let's not fret about why it might be so, because they might have their own good reasons). Regardless, i agree with you completely, civility should not be lost. We have a broken Immigration system - all i care is how to fix it.
I am becoming a donor for the following reasons -
1. It is better to be informed and be involved rather than be "out of the loop" or in the dark
2. It is not free to get anything done in the commercial capital of the planet
3. Selfish motivation - life is short. i would like to see the end of this struggle as soon as i can. personally, cannot be a mute spectator esp. when i see someone else fighting for MY cause and I being fortunate to lend a helping hand
4. Altruistic motivation - gives some meaning to life whether we get anything done or not at the end of the day. if successful, would have the satisfaction of being part of the solution - the intangible benefits of that feeling is unexplainable.
Wish us luck and my best to everyone in all their endeavors.
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suriajay12
02-25 08:55 PM
Thanks for your insight and observation.
Do you believe in what IV is doing?
If Yes, i will really appreciate if you can contribute and help us in any way. This is an organisation run by people like me and you, who have full time jobs and have families also. If we all can take out some time out of our busy lives and try to help IV, then everyone will know about IV.
When we say we need to convince people, which is ridiculous, as i am 100% sure, everybody knows whats going on. We all are suffering and are here fort he long haul. If still people dont want to do anything, then no one can help us.
So, Thanks a lot for your insight and help IV to help yourself.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
Akhil,
I could convince 3 of my colleagues who are READY RIGHT NOW to contribute $1000.00 each. I can do $500.00.
But they asked me just one question. What is the action plan that IV is collecting these monies from prospective immigrants who are already in pain due to this economy and all that. I did tell them about July 07, flower campaign, but they are not willing to listen. They said they did not contribute at that time due to some reasons, but they now want to contribute big way. They have a much bigger friend's circle than mine who are also doing good from top schools who may contribute too. They may also register in IV soon.
But their only question is "What is the action plan for FUTURE". Can you please help.
I am confused myself with the same question, no offense. Like me, they wouldnt wait and wait forever for things to happen. We Strongly believe in any action towards goals. Trust me, we need lots of money, but the way they responded made me feel uncomfortable.
Do you believe in what IV is doing?
If Yes, i will really appreciate if you can contribute and help us in any way. This is an organisation run by people like me and you, who have full time jobs and have families also. If we all can take out some time out of our busy lives and try to help IV, then everyone will know about IV.
When we say we need to convince people, which is ridiculous, as i am 100% sure, everybody knows whats going on. We all are suffering and are here fort he long haul. If still people dont want to do anything, then no one can help us.
So, Thanks a lot for your insight and help IV to help yourself.
GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
Akhil,
I could convince 3 of my colleagues who are READY RIGHT NOW to contribute $1000.00 each. I can do $500.00.
But they asked me just one question. What is the action plan that IV is collecting these monies from prospective immigrants who are already in pain due to this economy and all that. I did tell them about July 07, flower campaign, but they are not willing to listen. They said they did not contribute at that time due to some reasons, but they now want to contribute big way. They have a much bigger friend's circle than mine who are also doing good from top schools who may contribute too. They may also register in IV soon.
But their only question is "What is the action plan for FUTURE". Can you please help.
I am confused myself with the same question, no offense. Like me, they wouldnt wait and wait forever for things to happen. We Strongly believe in any action towards goals. Trust me, we need lots of money, but the way they responded made me feel uncomfortable.
english_august
07-09 11:12 AM
I found this in the one of the forums.. please people contact the report have people hear us.
Story for the Washington Post
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Hi all,
I'm a reporter with the Washington Post. If your efforts result in Emilio Gonzalez receiving hundreds of flowers tomorrow, I would very much like to do a story on it. If you're interested in speaking with me and telling me your story and why you've decided to participate in this demonstration, please give me an email or call me. My contact information is below.
Thanks!
Xiyun
email:yangx@washpost.com
office phone: 202 334 6701
I just spoke with her. Please call her with your story as well. The more the better.
Story for the Washington Post
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi all,
I'm a reporter with the Washington Post. If your efforts result in Emilio Gonzalez receiving hundreds of flowers tomorrow, I would very much like to do a story on it. If you're interested in speaking with me and telling me your story and why you've decided to participate in this demonstration, please give me an email or call me. My contact information is below.
Thanks!
Xiyun
email:yangx@washpost.com
office phone: 202 334 6701
I just spoke with her. Please call her with your story as well. The more the better.
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english_august
07-09 08:59 AM
Not 100 words though
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gchopes
12-26 09:07 AM
I received FP notices for myself and spouse on Saturday, Dec 22 for FP at the Charlotte office on Jan 11.
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gc28262
06-29 09:07 AM
My question is -
what are these "1000s of folks" doing? Are they waiting for someone else to work for their cause?
If they believe they were wronged, they need to take action. Without any action, nothing is going to happen.
And, yes, these is discrimination on the both side of the lines. Have you looked at the hiring practices of leading desi outsourcing/consulting companies in the US?
__________________
Not a legal advice.
Here is the contact info for registering a complaint.
Office of Special Counsel for Immigration Related Unfair Employment Practices (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/htm/contactus.htm)
Office of Special Counsel Contact List
Through a language interpreter service, we are equipped to assist callers in all languages.
Mailing Address:
U.S. Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division
Office of Special Counsel for Immigration-Related
Unfair Employment Practices
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20530
Main Number: (202) 616-5594
Fax Number: (202) 616-5509
Toll Free Information Number and Worker Hotline: 1-800-255-7688
(202) 616-5525 or 1-800-237-2515 (TDD for hearing impaired)
Employer Hotline: 1-800-255-8155
1-800-237-2515 (TDD for hearing impaired)
E-mail Address: osccrt@usdoj.gov. We will make every effort to respond to emails that relate to the work of this office within 30 days. However, for immediate assistance, please call our employer hotline (1-800-255-8155) or worker hotline (1-800-255-7688).
Web Address: Office of Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices (OSC) -- Home Page (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc)
Special Counsel
Vacant
Deputy Special Counsel
Katherine A. Baldwin
Special Policy Counsel
Margaret Hu
Special Litigation Counsel
Robin M. Stutman
what are these "1000s of folks" doing? Are they waiting for someone else to work for their cause?
If they believe they were wronged, they need to take action. Without any action, nothing is going to happen.
And, yes, these is discrimination on the both side of the lines. Have you looked at the hiring practices of leading desi outsourcing/consulting companies in the US?
__________________
Not a legal advice.
Here is the contact info for registering a complaint.
Office of Special Counsel for Immigration Related Unfair Employment Practices (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc/htm/contactus.htm)
Office of Special Counsel Contact List
Through a language interpreter service, we are equipped to assist callers in all languages.
Mailing Address:
U.S. Department of Justice
Civil Rights Division
Office of Special Counsel for Immigration-Related
Unfair Employment Practices
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20530
Main Number: (202) 616-5594
Fax Number: (202) 616-5509
Toll Free Information Number and Worker Hotline: 1-800-255-7688
(202) 616-5525 or 1-800-237-2515 (TDD for hearing impaired)
Employer Hotline: 1-800-255-8155
1-800-237-2515 (TDD for hearing impaired)
E-mail Address: osccrt@usdoj.gov. We will make every effort to respond to emails that relate to the work of this office within 30 days. However, for immediate assistance, please call our employer hotline (1-800-255-8155) or worker hotline (1-800-255-7688).
Web Address: Office of Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices (OSC) -- Home Page (http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/osc)
Special Counsel
Vacant
Deputy Special Counsel
Katherine A. Baldwin
Special Policy Counsel
Margaret Hu
Special Litigation Counsel
Robin M. Stutman
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starving_dog
06-26 12:02 PM
I find it slightly amusing that your perception is that my perception is distorted. I am not a member of the core team and my remarks are my personal opinion. If I am wrong, well, then I'm wrong. If I'm right, these posts will be buried so far in the thread that it won't matter at that time.
Check this out... http://www.visalaw.com/blog.html
Check this out... http://www.visalaw.com/blog.html
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reddymjm
06-12 11:55 AM
I filed 485/EAD/AP on May 31st and TSC received on June 1st. My checks haven't been cleared yet. TSC is said to be the slowest one. In a chinese forum, several people whose PD became current on June 1st got 485 approved recently. Their cases were all transferred to NSC recently.
BTW, how long will it take to get EAD? I sort of remember that it takes at most 3 months.
As far as i heard TSC is the fastest man. NSC is the snail...
BTW, how long will it take to get EAD? I sort of remember that it takes at most 3 months.
As far as i heard TSC is the fastest man. NSC is the snail...
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gk_2000
02-17 11:16 AM
thanks ub27, gc_on_demand
Agreed. $5000 is about the same amount a single student paid to TVU, the diploma mill. This used to be the price 1 employee paid a fraud DCC for processing a Green card.
What more can I say....
.
What is the difference between the two? IMO, two words "Effective Marketing". Come on, where are the MBA's among us who can offer strategy? Actually I feel we are so backward that we don't even need MBA's to improve from here, just any simple ideas
Agreed. $5000 is about the same amount a single student paid to TVU, the diploma mill. This used to be the price 1 employee paid a fraud DCC for processing a Green card.
What more can I say....
.
What is the difference between the two? IMO, two words "Effective Marketing". Come on, where are the MBA's among us who can offer strategy? Actually I feel we are so backward that we don't even need MBA's to improve from here, just any simple ideas
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Macaca
07-09 11:25 AM
it says nothing about who can file an application.
it only says the "status may be adjusted" IF.....
Based on a quick scan of the above documents (which may not be a complete list of documents on AOS), I did not find a single reference to LAW that specifies when AOSs can (not) be submittted by GC applicants. My guess is that there is no such law That is why AILA is calling it rubbish.
I urge everyone to scan these (and othet documents) for LAW that specifies when AOSs can (not) be submittted by GC applicants.
it only says the "status may be adjusted" IF.....
Based on a quick scan of the above documents (which may not be a complete list of documents on AOS), I did not find a single reference to LAW that specifies when AOSs can (not) be submittted by GC applicants. My guess is that there is no such law That is why AILA is calling it rubbish.
I urge everyone to scan these (and othet documents) for LAW that specifies when AOSs can (not) be submittted by GC applicants.
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ThinkTwice
07-19 07:06 PM
Zoom, I appreciate you having started this thread, I have a suggession - Can you please
- give a little back ground as to why we are starting this effort
- The source http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_012859.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index _businessweek+exclusives
- Also some one mentioned that Aman was even considering SELLING his house to support OUR cause.
- what we intend to accomplish by this effort
- The manner in which the money that is collected will be admistered ( If this has not been finalized may be just mention that this is WIP)
- what our target is.
If you add all this information in the initial post it will give direction and substance to this effort.
Thanks
TT
Although the thread title says "Reimburse the core team" and I know that the core team will not take any money (and do not expect the memebrs to reimburse them) from the fund that we are planning on creating here...Stilll by contributing to this fund we can make sure that core does not have to bear any out of pocket personal expense in future while working on "our" goal.
Lets see how many of us are actually inetested in contributing. Once we have the number we can set a realistic goal and divide amongst ourselves.
For that I suggest we give this thread good two days to develop and check other members responses...
So here is a chance for everyone to contribute to our own goal. Lets keep this going. Who ever is interested pls reply. I will do a final count after 2 days as suggested and take it from there....
Guys: Its good to see response...Pls reply "In" and the amount.
- give a little back ground as to why we are starting this effort
- The source http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jul2007/db20070718_012859.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index _businessweek+exclusives
- Also some one mentioned that Aman was even considering SELLING his house to support OUR cause.
- what we intend to accomplish by this effort
- The manner in which the money that is collected will be admistered ( If this has not been finalized may be just mention that this is WIP)
- what our target is.
If you add all this information in the initial post it will give direction and substance to this effort.
Thanks
TT
Although the thread title says "Reimburse the core team" and I know that the core team will not take any money (and do not expect the memebrs to reimburse them) from the fund that we are planning on creating here...Stilll by contributing to this fund we can make sure that core does not have to bear any out of pocket personal expense in future while working on "our" goal.
Lets see how many of us are actually inetested in contributing. Once we have the number we can set a realistic goal and divide amongst ourselves.
For that I suggest we give this thread good two days to develop and check other members responses...
So here is a chance for everyone to contribute to our own goal. Lets keep this going. Who ever is interested pls reply. I will do a final count after 2 days as suggested and take it from there....
Guys: Its good to see response...Pls reply "In" and the amount.
more...
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ArunAntonio
07-09 06:01 PM
Naveen
drona
Can you guys also update the 'Gandhigiri' in Wiki
- AA
drona
Can you guys also update the 'Gandhigiri' in Wiki
- AA
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zoooom
07-19 06:48 PM
Although the thread title says "Reimburse the core team" and I know that the core team will not take any money (and do not expect the memebrs to reimburse them) from the fund that we are planning on creating here...Stilll by contributing to this fund we can make sure that core does not have to bear any out of pocket personal expense in future while working on "our" goal.
Lets see how many of us are actually inetested in contributing. Once we have the number we can set a realistic goal and divide amongst ourselves.
For that I suggest we give this thread good two days to develop and check other members responses...
So here is a chance for everyone to contribute to our own goal. Lets keep this going. Who ever is interested pls reply. I will do a final count after 2 days as suggested and take it from there....
Guys: Its good to see response...Pls reply with the text "In" and the amount.
Members,
I am sure most of us have already gone through this article but those who have not pls do so. This elablarately tells about the sacrifices our core team(especially Aman) had to make inorder to be where we are today...I am sure this will encourage you....
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/...eek+exclusives
========================
Message from Pappu:
Aman has made more financial sacrifices and time sacrifices than anyone else. Not a single penny has been reimbursed to him for his trips to DC, food and stay in DC or car rental in DC. He even risked his job and went to DC on unpaid leave at critical times because lobbying was important for getting our work done. We in the core team know this and when we see the kind of contributions we get from members, we feel disappointed that our efforts are not valued. When we started the $20 contributions people felt $20 was too high and wanted $10 per month or less. The kind of work and effort that is needed to push a single provision is phenomenal and needs lot of capital. The more the better. Sometimes reading posts that say IV core is selfish also disappoints us. People do not know the effort that goes in getting anything done. This website is simply a tool for us to communicate to everyone. The big effort is the lobbying work. We hope the Buisnessweek article helps people realize our hard work and people value it by contributing to it and helping us in all action items.
"Members please pledge the amount. Do NOT pay right now. Since these funds are to be directed towards reimbursing the administrative costs of the core team , we are not going to be adding it to the IV funds. We are working on a strategy to get this amount across to the IV core team members. We will instruct you on how to make the payment, once we formulate a strategy"
Lets see how many of us are actually inetested in contributing. Once we have the number we can set a realistic goal and divide amongst ourselves.
For that I suggest we give this thread good two days to develop and check other members responses...
So here is a chance for everyone to contribute to our own goal. Lets keep this going. Who ever is interested pls reply. I will do a final count after 2 days as suggested and take it from there....
Guys: Its good to see response...Pls reply with the text "In" and the amount.
Members,
I am sure most of us have already gone through this article but those who have not pls do so. This elablarately tells about the sacrifices our core team(especially Aman) had to make inorder to be where we are today...I am sure this will encourage you....
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/...eek+exclusives
========================
Message from Pappu:
Aman has made more financial sacrifices and time sacrifices than anyone else. Not a single penny has been reimbursed to him for his trips to DC, food and stay in DC or car rental in DC. He even risked his job and went to DC on unpaid leave at critical times because lobbying was important for getting our work done. We in the core team know this and when we see the kind of contributions we get from members, we feel disappointed that our efforts are not valued. When we started the $20 contributions people felt $20 was too high and wanted $10 per month or less. The kind of work and effort that is needed to push a single provision is phenomenal and needs lot of capital. The more the better. Sometimes reading posts that say IV core is selfish also disappoints us. People do not know the effort that goes in getting anything done. This website is simply a tool for us to communicate to everyone. The big effort is the lobbying work. We hope the Buisnessweek article helps people realize our hard work and people value it by contributing to it and helping us in all action items.
"Members please pledge the amount. Do NOT pay right now. Since these funds are to be directed towards reimbursing the administrative costs of the core team , we are not going to be adding it to the IV funds. We are working on a strategy to get this amount across to the IV core team members. We will instruct you on how to make the payment, once we formulate a strategy"
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needhelp!
02-11 12:17 PM
Are you folks waiting for the next amendment banning all H1B renewals?
If we don't stand up against this NOW, its going to be too late.
If we don't stand up against this NOW, its going to be too late.
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coolpal
08-02 10:10 AM
CA and NY were the two states which were always backlogged during those bad old days of labor processing. Now, CA application goes to TSC and NY goes to NSC and that might keep both the centers balanced going forward.
But I think rather than dividing based on the states, they should rather do a load balancing based on the request coming..just like our network works :)
Load balancing can be simply based on the round robin fashion..one goes to TSC other goes to NSC and so on.
How difficult is to build that kind of system and to keep it balanced and fair for all.
...and probably add more servers (err... service centers) to serve the demand ;)
pal :)
But I think rather than dividing based on the states, they should rather do a load balancing based on the request coming..just like our network works :)
Load balancing can be simply based on the round robin fashion..one goes to TSC other goes to NSC and so on.
How difficult is to build that kind of system and to keep it balanced and fair for all.
...and probably add more servers (err... service centers) to serve the demand ;)
pal :)
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anilnag
05-02 11:40 AM
Who did not even know about IV till Apr 2007 are talking here.
Why not if 'Who did not even know about IV till Apr 2007 are CONTRIBUTING here'.
Do u think admins should ban people from expressing views if joined after a certain cutoff date???
Why not if 'Who did not even know about IV till Apr 2007 are CONTRIBUTING here'.
Do u think admins should ban people from expressing views if joined after a certain cutoff date???
PavanV
02-01 12:28 PM
I thought of going back after getting citizenship, but that would be another 8-9 years at the least. I would miss the big ride in India. When I went there(Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu) 3 years ago, I did not like it that much. But I see a big change in the last 3 years. Infrastructure is improving. Few of my friends have already gone back and are pretty happy over there.
I am from Hyderabad, l left that city in 1999 to do my MS, got my MS, switched a couple of jobs as i thought career growth / job satisfaction was more important than filing a GC, finally my present company filed my GC in 2009 (PD 2009), I am fed up of this laborious process, not everyone can take it, and I am one of them, and as I get older, I am getting more conservative and I find it difficult to adjust here. I am visiting India this year, if everything works out, I will be heading back, even with all the complaints about India, it still is my country of birth, and there is a saying, "Janani Janma bhoomishya swargadapi gariyasi", translated, Mother and motherland are superior to the Heaven.
I am from Hyderabad, l left that city in 1999 to do my MS, got my MS, switched a couple of jobs as i thought career growth / job satisfaction was more important than filing a GC, finally my present company filed my GC in 2009 (PD 2009), I am fed up of this laborious process, not everyone can take it, and I am one of them, and as I get older, I am getting more conservative and I find it difficult to adjust here. I am visiting India this year, if everything works out, I will be heading back, even with all the complaints about India, it still is my country of birth, and there is a saying, "Janani Janma bhoomishya swargadapi gariyasi", translated, Mother and motherland are superior to the Heaven.
morchu
05-08 02:36 PM
:) my point was, regulations and interpretations are meant for the exact situation. Anyway I am also done in this topic. I have no personal interest on either EB-quota or FB-quota (why am i even here... nhaa?).
Thanks for a healthy discussion though.
we are talking about inclusion logic here. Not the exclusion logic.
Thanks for a healthy discussion though.
we are talking about inclusion logic here. Not the exclusion logic.
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